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So... On official forum Leileilol told she gonna release a new version tomorrow.

but not for mac :/

I really don't know why the hurry. Jackoverfull as far as I know is able and willing to do mac version (as usual).

Bad news for us. Three of us are mac users.

This step is little suicidal. OA needs its mac users.

And so, as i've already posted there, we stay 081 till everyone can play 085 on his mac.

Wtf??!! It's stupid to do an only windows version!! >:(
There's a lot of mac users on OA, i will post on the forum if nobody did that before! >:(

Win and Linux ;)
But it seems lei wants to loose the oa community... :/

BTW.. where is ver 0.82, 0.83 and 0.84? :O

It's stupid, there will be no more player on OA, we must do something against this!  :'( >:(

just a matter of time tiny relax

A tiny relax, a big one yes ;D ;D

oh my god
http://openarena.ws/download.php?list.60
085 patch download READ BELOW FIRST
first copy all files from 081 folder (not baseoa or so, just the openarena.exe folder) to another, and then apply the patch to the copied folder. This way you can use 085 but won't erase anything.
One little note. BLACK NAME IS NOT WORKING NEITHER IS THERE A MAC VERSION

so we're staying 081 for a looong time

maybe not so long...

They're planning to release 0.8.6 in March - they should add Mac support then.

but they say on the official forum that just new pk3 is needed - app is not changed. Therefore it should work on macs. Just copy new pk3 to baseoa. Or am I wrong? Maybe some mac user of IO could check it?

anyway even with some flaws it's a good move, refreshing. I hope they will keep the planned way to make small steps (minor patches) on the way to 0.9.0.

and we - we can can wait till 0.8.5 will be tested or even for 0.8.6.

Pff, that sucks, and the explanations on the forums are a kind of strange :-\

Lol i understand. Am working on a complete win/lin/mac release. If i had just a bit more time this morning you'd already have it for testing.
Still it doesn't solve the black problem, gonna ask falkland for implimenting the hex/rgb code.

O man! u're doing some magic then :)

I don't know if it's a common problem but in 0.8.5 I can't change crosshair color though there is an option. weird. it's always white.

edit: I tried it also on my computer. It doesn't work too. I turned off crosshairhealth, but crosshair is still white. Did Leilol missed something or it's just me?

Neither changing crosshair color sliders in menu does anything nor cg_crosshaircolorblue/red/green in console. I'd ask on the official forum, but I have to introduce myself there first - I don't want to do that now :). So I'm asking you guys :)

I was waiting for this feature :/   

It's sure nice that the new version is released, but as rmf said, we could better wait till all or most of the big clans moved to 0.8.5

i have 0.8.5 on my mac..
i´m join the FF 0.8.5 server and download automa. the 0.8.5 pk3 files from the ff server :-) no problem with it, its nice ! :-)
only our tag is full blue :(

Well, i think we should wait because the next release ( 0.8.6 ) will appear in march ;D
Btw Luc, don't do soo much for us ;)

lol i mean when you join all rocket, ctf 4 fishes or FF you download 0.8.5 auto.. or u cant join

that just sucks, soon u'll be forced to use 085 on all servers :-\

If 0.8.5 has mac support despite the rumors, the only problem for us is a lack of black letters. Hmm... I can't say it's a kind of epic fail :)
I think it will be fixed soon.

What do you think about this version beyond mentioned flaws?

I like new menu colors. Structure is still the same as in Q3, but the new colors remove an impression that it's just copy paste from Q3. Still I like the most the layout of missionpack - it halfbaked for now, but original. Maybe they will use it in 0.9.0...

Neon Knight's maps. I know they were always available on Neon's site, but good to have some of them built into OA. Blitzkrieg2 is really cool at first glance.
On the other hand I don't understand why they did not include pulchr's duel map. It's ready for a long time and very nice. OA does not have too many good duel maps. There is pul ctf in oa, why not pul duel? :/

New skins. I don't care... But nice :)

Some fixes in physics. I haven't checked them. I hope they work.

Statistics are great. But still there are no accuracy statistics. Only kills/deaths. And usage of weapons.  Especially railers like to have also an accuracy stats.

Rail jumping still not included :/

Colored crosshairs are back but don't work :( So they're really not back :)

So... maybe let's give this version a chance? Not now... but maybe in some time?...

Maybe Falkland will help to resolve black fonts problem...

damn all nice host i know have a 100mb or less file limit :/
the upload is ~350mb so ima search a little tomorrow

085-full has to wait sry

My Red crosshair Works Looks really nice :p it Works very well on my mac.. Nö problems. On xp with 0.8.5 rc1 it Works also few weeks ago :-)

@drunken

hmm... Did you do anything "special"? :) I disabled crosshaircolor, should I do anything else?

To get some color in? Sounds unlogic?
ima check it out when i have time (like 5pm today)

Hum.. I will look at this when i will be back but i think that for the moment, we should wait for the next release because it's in march.
And i posted on super website about oacl and it seems we will do it under 0.8.5 ;)

@RMF

aw, my mistake. dumbdumbdumb. i meant I had disabled cg_crosshairhealth ofc :) I didn't disable crosshaircolor to get colored crosshair :)

we should wait for the next release because it's in march. ->

than turn auto downloading to "off" simon ;P

@Mister Bond :))
no nothing. http://lucb1e.comli.com/openarena/ioclan/uploads/667327shot0001.jpg

@drunken

This red crosshair is just great, I always dreamed about such a beauty one.

But it ain't working, mates, on my rigs :/

I removed all configs, all mods, got clean OA with new patch and my crosshair still is snowy white :)

how do you mean, that sucks?

Oops mistake it Will be 0.8.1 my fault :-[ :-[ ;D

Oh! In that case it's awesome :P

Openarena 0.8.5 as seen through my eyes.
http://openarena.ws/board/index.php?topic=3548.msg30317#msg30317

Hum.... here i find a solution for mac :D ( or at least it's working for me )
It's very simple :P:

You only need the patch for 0.8.5, when you got it, copy your Open arena folder ( the one in applications ), renamed it " openarena-0.8.5 "
Then, go into your library, then applications support, then copy the file named " OpenArena " and paste the copy at the same place, then renamed it " OpenArena-0.8.5 ", then copy/paste the patch for 0.8.5 in the baseoa folder ( in the new folder ).
Then, copy/paste this patch in the baseoa folder too but in the "openarena-0.8.5" folder ( in applications ).

There if i don't forget anything you got two versions of OA, one running with 0.8.1 and the other with 0.8.5 :D

@RMF

here's my answer to your post on the official forum, I'm inactive there, so I'm putting it here in our cozy site :)

I agree - the installation is NOT "monkeyproof". It is - maybe - transparent for experienced OA users, but newcomer installing this game for the first time may have problem, especially if he doesn't know what all those pk3s are about. They should just pack it into one zip.

New menu. It's ofc matter of taste. I like it much more than the old one. And it's good it does not copy Q3 anymore.
I don't understand when u're talking about OA style. IMO OA does not have any style!  ok, we can say psythe's maps have their coherent style as well as Neon's one, but in general OA is an esthetic jumble. All those models - lizards, anime chicks, gangsters :) Some say it's a flaw and WARSOW IS SO COHERENT, HAS ITS OWN DESIGN, OA should have one too. But it's a crap i think. I like this crazy atmoshpere of OA, with all elements from different stories. Therefore I don't think those menu colors do not match. There's nothing there to match to :) But it's my opinion. I respect yours!

Statistics.  Good idea, but, yes, they are screwed. I suppose they're gonna fix it in the next release.

Mac support. Anyway it's there! but there should be manual saying clearly that new pk3 is needed only without changing the app.

Physics. I think they are going to do it equal for all players regardless of connection. By default it's like in default 081. In former version you can't jump the bridge without chaning com_maxfps. The same here - but u don't have to know a command anymore, you can set it from menu. I think it's good for newcomers.

Maps - again - the matter of taste. I like both new oa_minia and compromise. But Luc, you should remember it's an open source project. everyone can be involved! There is a long discussion about minia on the official forum. They've been working this map for very long time! ofc, You are not obliged to admire the effect, but progress could have been followed by everyone and all suggestions were welcome.
About Compromise. For two weeks cosmo was runnig a test server with this map. I met him there - we've been runnig all over the map. He showed me his ideas, asked about suggestions and review. He is very open! And I'm sure he put all his heart to this map. I think it can be great for some bigger matches, 4vs4 or even 5vs5. OA lacks big maps! ps37 and oasago are good, esp. ps37, but not everybody has to like it. And u don't have to like compromise :)

Ofc 085 has its flaws. But i'm sure this step was needed to move OA ahead! It can't be straight clone of q3 anymore, since HATE_QUAKELIVE exists. It must offer something different, it must be OpenArena, not Quake3!

Guys are taking risks changing thing we're accustomed to. But I think we need to make this dangerous steps of minor updates on the way to 0.9.0 which should be ALMOST complete and flawless! it will be only one number from 1.0.0 :)
Maybe we should consider 0.8.5 and next minor updates as some workshop?
Let's give'em the chance. They're doing a good job there for us, for free, in thier spare time. Even Leileilol :)

Don't be mad at me guys, even if I'm the only defender of 0.8.5 in IO :)

Lol, personnaly, there's not so much things who change...... :-X
It's not a BIG release, of course the menu is nice, and the new maps seem nice too but... not so much things differents ;D
So, i don't really care about it, i will wait for a bigger release ;)
Even if i already played with this new version ( because there are more and more servers with that :) )